Russia Is Not Rosh Gog Magog Meschech Or Tubal

Satan is a counterfeiter. His method of deception is providing counterfeits for all of the major End Times prophecies. For example, Satan wants to deceive the world into worshiping his antichrist. Satan knows that Christians are aware that the Bible warns of an End Times antichrist. Christians are going to be watchful of such. How will Satan convince these Christians that his antichrist is the legitimate messiah? How will he deceive these Bible savvy Christians? Satan will create a counterfeit antichrist. He will then use all of his controlled televangelists and the rest of the Satanically controlled Christian establishment to promote the notion that his counterfeit is, indeed, the real antichrist. Satan will then script out a scenario where his real antichrist (posing at the Messiah) will defeat this fake antichrist. He will then use his puppets to persuade the Christian masses to worship the real antichrist, under the guise that the antichrist was already defeated. Pretty clever huh? He wants people to think, “The antichrist was already defeated, here comes the Messiah to save the day.” In this way, he will trick Christians into worshiping the false Messiah. He plans to make it look like Revelation happens before it actually happens.

Also remember the racial classification in relation to the Bible based on skull shape and other physiological indicators.

Mongoloid = Japheth
Negroid = Ham
Caucasoid = Shem

There are three sons on Noah and three main racial groupings… What a coincidence! Almost all Christian pastors agree that Ham gave birth to the Negroid peoples. We know, judging by the ways that scientists group the races into modern racial families, that white Caucasians are the same racial group, that is Caucasoid, as the middle easterners such as the Iraqi, Persian and Syrian peoples. Most Christian scholars agree that the Shemites largely stayed in the Middle-East. Many people who now live in Iraq, Syria, and Iran are descendent of Asshur, the Persian or Iranian peoples are descendent from Elam. Flavius Josephus, the 1st century historian, identified the Arameans, who are modern day Syrians, with Shem’s son Aram. Considering the above mentioned modern scientific skull shape evidence, white Caucasians, like the Iraqi’s, Iranians, and Syrians, would therefore have to be Shemites as well.

The “Indo-European” language group is also shared with the Iranians, who, as mentioned earlier, are Biblically identified as Elam (Shemites). It seems obvious that the “Indo-European” language group is just a Shemitic language group. Satan, in an effort to promote the deception that whites are Japhethites, has given the name “Indo-European” or “Aryan” to our language group to try and hide the fact that it is just a Shemitic subgroup. He wants us to think that the Iranians are the same race as whites. Notice that Iran is no more white genetically than other Middle-Eastern nations such as Syria or Iraq. By convincing the world that Iranians are just a long lost segment of the white race, he dodges any sort of efforts to classify the “Indo-European” language group as either Shemitic or Japhethitic. Otherwise humans would come to the correct conclusion that, since we share our language group with the Iranians, a Shemitic peoples, that the “Indo-European” language group is Shemitic. In fact, many are unaware of the similarities between English and Hebrew. Satan has done his best to hide the fact that English is from Hebrew, it seems completely obvious that whites are also Shemites.

There are many linguists who disagree with the established linguistic grouping theories. I will write an article about this if I have time. Many of these alternate theories reflect what I am stating above. How could Satan deceive all of these intelligent linguists into making false groupings? Satan is ruler of the world (John 16:11). He has no problem influencing and manipulating us. He also keeps puppets in the higher echelons of science and academia. He uses these Satanists to promote lies and deceptions which would prevent us from seeing through his propaganda and finding our ways to Jesus. If you do not support Satan’s established scientific beliefs, watch as your grants and funding get cut off. People are generally very conforming and will parrot the beliefs of the leaders within academia. It is the same reason most Christian pastors have fallen for all of Satan’s deceptions.

Now that we know that blacks are Hamites and that white people are Shemites, by process of elimination this would mean that the Japhethites must be the Mongoloid people! Odd how none of the established, Satanically controlled Christian pastors can explain where the Mongoloid people came from… Did Noah have another secret son? Satan is desperate to hide the fact that whites are Shemites (Caucasoid) because this gives credence to the idea that they are the Lost Tribes. Whites are the Lost Tribes, Satan doesn’t want people to know that, so he must try to hide their identity.

This is probably one of the most clear pieces of evidence that whites are, indeed, the Lost Tribes. Why else would Satan go to such an extent to hide the Shemitic racial identity of whites? How else could so many Christian pastors make such an obvious error? Why do none of them even bother to try and explain where the Mongoloid people come from? REMEMBER, SATAN CONTROLS THE CHRISTIAN ESTABLISHMENT!

These are they which were not defiled with women (churches); for they are virgins (spiritually pure). These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. (bold mine, Revelation 14:4)

Woman is symbolic of a church (2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:23-27)

The fact that those who find their way into heaven are said to be  virgins to the mainstream Christian movements should then imply that the mainstream churches will have a corrupting and defiling influence in the End Times. Therefore, it does not take a genius with logic to figure out that that the majority of Christians will be deceived in the End Times. The Christian establishment is controlled by Satan. Satan’s puppets promote devastating lies which will prevent Christians from finding their way into heaven. These false prophets lie about the identity of Mystery Babylon the Great. They lie about the Mark of the Beast. They lie about the rapture. Satan uses them to steer Christians far away from God’s narrow gate. The Bible further illustrates this fact with the following passage.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. (Matthew 7:13-14)

Satan is ruler of this world (Luke 4:6, John 16:11). Satan’s most valuable brainwashing sources will be puppet propagandists of Christian thought. In general, if the vast majority of Christian preachers agree on something, concerning one of the End Times mysteries, there’s a very high chance that they are wrong. In this world controlled by Satan, it’s good to think in opposites.

In summary, the reason that Satan has put forth such effort to convince the world that white people are Japhethites, despite observational common sense, is because he is trying to conceal their true identity. That of being The Lost Tribes of Israel.

Magog, Meshech and Tubal are all Japhethite people according to Genesis 10:2. Who are the Japhethite people today? Satan has convinced the world that these nations are Russia. Russians are Israelites; they have the exact same genetic haplogroup as Levitical Jews. How has Satan convinced the world that Russia, a Christian nation, is Gog, Magog, Meschech and Tubal? Satan was responsible for the Bolshevik Revolution, the proof lies in the fact that the Bolshevik Revolution was carried out by the Synagogue of Satan. Therefore, this Revoloution was instrumental to Satan’s plan. Something very important concerning his End Times deceptions was propagated by this revolution. Satan used this Marxist revolution to give credence to his deception that Russia was Gog, Magog, Meschech and Tubal. Prior to this, most Christians had correctly identified Magog, Meschech and Tubal as being Turkish peoples. Satan must make Russia look as evil and barbaric as possible. It was necessary that he created enough of a cultural gap between Russia and the other European nations that he could present Russia as these End Times entities that will wage war on Israel. Satan used Marxism to strip away Russia’s cultural and religious identity. It was necessary to destroy  Russia’s Christian heritage to give credence to this deception.

We know that black people are Hamites, modernly known as Negroids, and the middle eastern peoples and white people are Shemites, modernly known as Caucasoid. Therefore, by process of elimination, Japhethites must be the Mongoloid peoples.

Therefore, because Magog, Meshech, Gomer and Tubal are all Japhethite nations, we know that Russia, being a Shemitic Caucasian nation, could not possibly be one of the aforementioned Japhethite nations.

Prior to the Bolshevik Revolution, Christian scholars and historians used to identify the nations of the Magog, Meshech, Tubal and Gomer with the regions of the Caucasus and Turkey. “The World as known to the Hebrews”, a map from the Historical Textbook and Atlas of Biblical Geography by Coleman, written in 1854, clearly identifies the nations of Magog, Meschech, Tubal, Ashkenaz, and Gomer as being in the region of the Caucasus and Turkey.

A map from the 1700’s makes similar identifications.

gog, magog, meschech, tubal, gomer map

Who is the real Magog?

Magog is the second of the sons of Japheth (Genesis 10:2). Prior to the atmosphere of era Soviet fear during the cold way, most Christian scholars believed the land of Magog to be in the northern part of modern day Turkey (Asia Minor). Pliny identified Magog with the ancient kingdom of Lydia.

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“In his multi-volume work called The Natural History, Pliny identifies the ancient Lydian city of Hierapolis as being part of Magog. Built atop the cliffs, the city of Hierapolis controlled the water supply of the Lydian city of Laodicea six miles to the south. The city of Hierapolis was built by the Lydians and always under Lydian control until the Lydian Kingdom became part of the Persian Empire in 546 BC and then part of the Greek and Roman Empires that followed. Like Pliny, today’s archeologists also identify Magog with the ancient nation of Lydia, which was in western Asia Minor. Indeed, written records from the Assyrian royal court show that the Assyrians used the name Magog as an eponym for the nation of Lydia. In his book Pliny writes, “Bambyx the other name of which is Hierapolis, but by the Syrians called Magog.”* In other words, Pliny identifies the famed Lydian city of Hierapolis as being part of Magog. In this we see that Magog is another name for the ancient nation of Lydia.” [Jeffrey Goodman, The Comets of God, pp. 474]

The original non-white inhabitants of Italy, who dominated Italy until the Battle of Veii in 396 BC, the Etruscans, were originally from Lydia according to Herodotus. Archeological finds seem to confirm this theory. The “Lemnian Inscription,” which was dated to 600BC linked the languages of the Etruscans to that of one used in Asia Minor.

Genetic evidence also provides more evidence.

“Genetic research made public at the weekend appears to put the matter beyond doubt, however. It shows the Etruscans came from the area which is now Turkey – and that the nearest genetic relatives of many of today’s Tuscans and Umbrians are to be found, not in Italy, but around Izmir.

The latest findings confirm what was said about the matter almost 2,500 years ago, by the Greek historian Herodotus.” [source]

Since the Etruscans were from Lydia, and had haplogroup G, we can assess that haplogroup G is the haplogroup of Magog.

Notice that haplogroup G is still most widely represented within the area of the Caucasus / Turkey and Georgia. Magog, Meshech, Tubal, Gomer and Ashkenaz are all sons of Japheth, and all inhabit areas with high percentages of haplogroup G. It seems that haplogroup G is the original haplogroup type of all of these Turkish peoples.

Satan will also provide a counterfeit for the "Gog and Magog" war. Satan has convinced the Christian masses that Magog, Meschech, and Tubal are references to Russia; they are all Turkish nations. Satan has convinced the world that these nations are Russia. Russians are Israelites; they have the exact same genetic haplogroup as Levitical Jews. How has Satan convinced the world that Russia, a Christian nation, is Gog, Magog, Meschech and Tubal? Satan was responsible for the Bolshevik Revolution, the proof lies in the fact that the Bolshevik Revolution was carried out by the Synagogue of Satan. Therefore, this must have benefited Satan in some way. Satan used this Marxist revolution to give credence to his deception that Russia was Gog, Magog, Meschech and Tubal. Prior to this, most Christians had correctly identified Magog, Meschech and Tubal as being Turkish peoples. It was necessary that he created enough of a cultural gap between Russia and the other European nations that he could present Russia as these End Times entities that will wage war on Israel. Satan used Marxism to strip away Russia's cultural and religious identity. It was necessary to destroy  Russia's Christian heritage to give credence to this deception.

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If Russia was Magog, Meschech and Tubal, why don’t they have a high percentage of haplogroup G? Note that white haplogroups are R1b, R1a and I.

haplogroup

Lets look at some pictures of people from these regions to see what modern racial classification they would fall under. Hopefully we will be able to find more evidence that Japhethites are the Mongoloid people.

The Ossetians, have some of the highest rates of haplogroup G.

Balanovsky’s team claims that most Ossetian men carry a certain genetic signature that is common to them alone. Specifically, they found that at least 56% of Ossetian men (and up to 73% among the Iron) share haplogroup G2a1a-P18

Many Ossetians have a very Mongoloid appearance. In fact, they look similar to the Etruscans depicted in artwork. They have an oriental face with a European type of nose.

This is ancient Etruscan artwork which depicts Mongoloid facial characteristics. (I’m being very careful to not break plagiarism laws.)

Notice the similarity? These ancient Etruscans were Haplogroup G, as are many Ossetians and Georgians.

“…Another study showed that the areas of historical Etruscan occupation share a relatively high concentration of y-haplogroup G with Anatolians, and the people of Caucasus, where the haplogroup reaches its greatest presence, particularly amongst the Ossetians and Georgians. This evidence is not specific to any period or calendar date, and might reflect contiguous populations or significant migration far back in the Stone Age.”
Etruscan Origins

While having a fair amount of white DNA, many Ossetians still have obvious mongoloid features.

The Madjars of Kazakhstan have a very high rate of 87%of haplogroup G1. Note that G1 and G2 both belong to the same haplogroup G branch. Please watch the following video to see the clear mongoloid features in Madjars. Madjars, because of their higher rate of Haplogroup G, look much more mongoloid than the Ossetians. There’s no mistaking it.

This proves that Haplogroup G is clearly a Mongoloid Haplogroup.

Turkey has served as a crossroads of civilization. The Turks are now very mixed. While Turkey as a whole has only around 11% haplogroup G now, which is still one of the highest in the world, the areas farther to the east have higher rates of haplogroup G. The ancient Turks were clearly Mongoloid in appearance. If you want to look at more evidence of ancient Turks being Mongoloid please read this. They also share the same linguistic group as people from Kazakhstan.

Since we have confirmed that the Japhethite tribe of Magog was Haplogroup G, and that the Japhethite tribes of Magog, Meshech and Tubal are all located in areas that still have relatively high amounts of Haplogroup G, and we now know that peoples people with Haplogroup G are mongoloid in appearance, we can confirm that Japheth gave birth to the mongoloid race, rather than the white race.

This genetic evidence corresponds to what we already earlier figured out about Magog. They are a mongoloid people, specifically identified with the ancient Turkish peoples.

Who is Meschech?

Meschech was the sixth son of Japheth (Genesis 10:2). Meschech is probably best identified with the Mušk, Mushki, Meskheti, Meshebi, Mushkebi, Meskhetians, Moschia, and Meskhi, peoples who inhabited the Meskheti mountain range in southern Georgia, between the Black and the Caspian Seas.

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The majority of the modern Geogian population of Meskheti, living in the Meskheti region of southern Georgia, are descendents of the original ancient tribes.

“Meskheti, also known as Meskhetia, (Georgian: მესხეთი) is in a mountainous area of Moschia and is a province in southwestern Georgia. The ancient Georgian tribes of Meskhi (or Moschi) and Mosiniks were the indigenous population of this region. A majority of the modern Georgian population (Meskhs) of Meskheti are descendants of these ancient tribes
Wikipedia

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Let’s look at ancient Greek and Roman historians and geographers had to say about the identity of Meshech.

“Josephus Flavius identified the Cappadocian Moschoi with the Biblical Japhetic tribe descended from Meshech in his writings on the Genealogy of the Nations in Genesis 10, while Hippolytus of Rome connected Meshech with Illyrians.”
Wikipedia

Strabo supports Josephus’s identification.

“Strabo locates the Moschoi in two places. The first location is somewhere in modern Abkhazia (Georgia) on the eastern shore of the Black Sea, in agreement with Stephan of Byzantium quoting Hellanicus. The second location Moschice (Moschikê) – in which was a temple of Leucothea, once famous for its wealth, but plundered by Pharnaces and Mithridates – was divided between the Colchians, Armenians, and Iberians (cf. Mela, III. 5.4; Pliny VI.4.). These latter Moschoi were obviously the Georgian Meskhi or Mesx’i (where Greek χ, chi, is Georgian ხ, x). Procopius calls them Meschoi and says that they were subject to the Iberians (i.e., Georgians)”
Wikipedia

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There is also a considerable presence of Mesketi Turks in Kyrgyzstan, Ajerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan. The majority of these Turks are Sunni Muslim. This implies that these Muslim nations will likely be part of the Gog / Magog alliance.

“Meskhetian Turks are the former Turkish inhabitants of the Meskheti region of Georgia along the border with Turkey. They were deported to Central Asia during November 15-25 1944 by Joseph Stalin and settled within Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Uzbekistan. Of the 120,000 forcibly deported in cattle-trucks a total of 10,000 perished.[1] Today they are dispersed over a number of other countries of the former Soviet Union. There are 500,000 to 700,000 Meskhetian Turks in exile in Azerbaijan and Central Asia.[2][3] Meskhetian Turks are Sunni Hanafi Muslims.”
Wikipedia

Who is Tubal?

gog, magog, meschech, tubal, gomer map

Notice that Tubal was located in Georgia.

After the Soviet Union restructured in the Gorbachev-Reagan era, the Russian pronunciation of the capital of Georgia – Tiflis – was dropped, and the nation took back its ancestral name of Tblisi. In the Georgian dialect, the ethnic suffix isi means “the land of.” Furthermore, in that same ancient dialect, which is unique among linguistic groups, the consonants T and B are specifically separated by a gutteral U sound. The actual verbalization of Tblisi is “Tuh – ooh – ball – eesee.” In short, the name literally translates as “the land of Tubal.” This is the capital of the modern republic of Georgia. [James Lloyd, Gog and Magog Are Gathering Momentum, Christian Media Network]

Tubal was one of the proto-Georgian tribes which probably settled on the Black Sea coast somewhere in the Middle Bronze Age. As you will see, Tubal is connected with Colchis and and Iberia.

Colchis was inhabited by a number of related but distinct tribes whose settlements lay along the shore of the Black Sea. Chief among those were the Machelones, Heniochi, Zydretae, Lazi, Chalybes, Tabal/Tibareni/Tubal,Mossynoeci, Macrones, Moschi, Marres, Apsilae, Abasci, Sanigae, Coraxi,Coli, Melanchlaeni, Geloni and Soani (Suani). These Kartvelian tribes differed so completely in language and appearance from the surrounding Indo-European nations that the ancients provided various wild theories to account for the phenomenon.
Colchis

Notice that Tubal differed in appearance from the European people!

According to Greek and Roman geographers, Colchis and the Kingdom of Iberia was located in in the Caucasus, in the area that we now know as Georgia.

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Josephus (Ant. 1, 6, 1) identifies the descendants of Tubal with the Iberians.

Thobel founded the Thobelites, who are now called Iberes;
(Josephus, Antiquities, 1,6,1)

James Lloyd, one of the few Christian scholars with insight and discernment, provides more evidence that Tubal was the Iberians.

Many believe the origin of the name Iberian is derived from the state of Tibareni, referred to as Tubal in the Bible. A recent scholarly treatment on the origin of Georgia that was published by Oxford University Press states “The Jews of ancient Georgia were doubtless aware of the Jewish identification of Iberia with the Tubal of the Old Testament” (Georgia In Antiquity, David Braund, 1994). [James Lloyd, Gog and Magog Are Gathering Momentum, Christian Media Network]

What race are modern Georgians?

georgian people

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What race are Georgians? Modern Georgians are very mixed racially.

Georgia has been a highway of invasion for Russians, Persians, Mongols, and Turks, and various other ethnic groups, most modern Georgians have significant Middle Eastern, Turkish, and European admixture.

Genetic evidence shows that they are quite different from the Slavic peoples of Eastern Europe (Georgians only have 23% white Haplogroups). Georgians have much more in common genetically to the Turks.

haplogroup

The reason for this genetic discrepancy, between the Georgians and the white Slavic peoples, might have something to do with the fact that, according to the ancient Georgian Chronicles, the ancestor of the Kartvelian (Georgian) peoples, was Kartlos, the great grandson of the Biblical Japheth. The original Georgians, like the Turks and the Meshki, are another Japhethite race.

Georgia is a Christian Country

However, there is one small problem, Georgia is a country that is 83.9% Christian.

“There is also in the East another Christian people, who are very warlike and valiant in battle, being strong in body and powerful in the countless numbers of their warriors. They are much dreaded by the Saracens and have often by their invasions done great damage to the Persians, Medes and Assyrians on whose borders they dwell, being entirely surrounded by infidel nations. These men are called Georgians, because they especially revere and worship St. George, whom they make their patron and standard-bearer in their fight with the infidels, and they honor him above all other saints. Whenever they come on pilgrimage to the Lord’s Sepulchre, they march into the Holy City with banners displayed, without paying tribute to anyone, for the Saracens dare in no wise molest them. They wear their hair and beards about a cubit long and have hats on their heads.” [Jacques de Vitry, Patriarch of Jerusalem]

Would a country that has such a high population of Christians really be involved in a war against God’s chosen people?

There was a Neo-Hittite kingdom called Tabal that is located in the Southern part of Asia Minor. The people of Tabal are identified with the Tubals spoken of in the Bible.

Perhaps instead of referring to the Christian state of Georgia, Ezekiel 38 and 39 are referring to Southern Turkey.

***I had a dream in which God was giving me some sort of a history lesson, he said something like this. “The definition of Tubal is both a nation and a…” I woke up immediately afterwards. The Strong’s Concordance word for nation is both “nation” and “people.” Therefore I believe that the modern people living in Georgia today are not who God is talking about. Perhaps Tubal is referring to some of the other Turkish nations.***

What about Russia?

Satan will also provide a counterfeit for the “Gog and Magog” war. Satan has convinced the Christian masses that Magog, Meschech, and Tubal are references to Russia; they are all Turkish nations. Satan has convinced the world that these nations are Russia. Russians are Israelites; they have the exact same genetic haplogroup as Levitical Jews. How has Satan convinced the world that Russia, a country with a very rich history of Christianity, is Gog, Magog, Meschech and Tubal? Satan was responsible for the Bolshevik Revolution, the proof lies in the fact that the Bolshevik Revolution was carried out by the Synagogue of Satan. Therefore, this must have benefited Satan in some way. Satan used this Marxist revolution to give credence to his deception that Russia was Gog, Magog, Meschech and Tubal. Prior to this, most Christians had correctly identified Magog, Meschech and Tubal as being Turkish peoples. It was necessary that he created enough of a cultural gap between Russia and the other European nations that he could present Russia as these End Times entities that will wage war on Israel. Satan used Marxism to strip away Russia’s cultural and religious identity. It was necessary to destroy  Russia’s Christian heritage to give credence to this deception.

During the era of the Soviet scare, the Magog theory seemed more plausible. Now Russia is a country that is 86% Christian according to the CIA World Fact Book. Much of the “Russia is Magog” misinformation was propagated during the Cold War. With the Cold War long since finished, perhaps its time to revise these antiquated theories.

“Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army (Ezekiel 38:15-16)

In the Old Testament, the king of the north has reference to the areas of Syria, Turkey, and Iraq. The word north is used of Syria or the Old Seleucid Empire six times, of Babylon sixteen times, of Assyria one time, and of Iran one time. These are the lands once occupied by Magog, Gomer, Togarmah, Meshech and Tubal.

Meshech, Tubal, Togarmah, Dedan and Syria traded with Tyre six centuries before Christ [Ezek.27:13-16]. These lands clearly define the north. The fact that some scholars equate the names of ancient Middle East cities with modern English cognates is appalling. Meshech is NOT Moscow; Moscow just had its 850th birthday.

Some have interpreted the Hebrew word ‘rosh’ in Ezekiel 38:3, which is translated ‘chief’, to be a reference to Russia. In the Massoretic text the words ‘chief prince’ carry the accents Tiphha and Zaqeph-gadol.

The Tiphha appears under the resh of the Hebrew word ‘rosh'; the Zaqeph-gadol appears on top of the sin of the Hebrew word ‘nish’.

The Tiphha to the right, underneath the initial consonant of the word ‘rosh’, or chief, is prepositive and does not mark the tone syllable. See Kautsch and Cowley’s *Grammar*, page 61 item 9.

The word ‘nish’ or prince has the accent Zaqeph-gadol which is disjunctive and indicates a pause. See Kautsch and Cowley’s *Grammar*, page 60 item 4b.

So Ezekiel 38:3 should be read as follows: “Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the prince, {pause} chief of Meshech and Tubal:” Rosh is not Russia.

The Hebrew word ‘rosh’ is translated head or chief 423 times in the Old Testament. Again, it is absolutely appalling how some scholars can equate the English cognate ‘rosh’ with Russia. Rosh is not Russia.” [The above is from research by Carl Ludwigson]

Where did this myth originate?

“Where did the idea begin that Magog begat the Scythians? It began with one very questionable sentence written by the First Century AD Jewish historian, Josephus in his book The Antiquity of the Jews. The sentence says the Greeks called the “Magogites” the “Scythians” despite the fact that Greeks did not call the Magogites the
Scythians.* Not only is this statement in conflict with the far more detailed writings of other ancient historians (Greek and none Greek) and with ancient Assyrian texts that provide firsthand information about both the people of Magog and Scythians…” [Jeffrey Goodman, The Comets of God, pp. 474]

The Greek historian Herodotus reported three contradictory versions as to the origins of the Scythians, but considered the following to be most likely.

“There is also another different story, now to be related, in which I am more inclined to put faith than in any other. It is that the wandering Scythians once dwelt in Asia, and there warred with the Massagetae, but with ill success; they therefore quitted their homes, crossed the Araxes, and entered the land of Cimmeria.”

Josephus continues with further mistakes in relation to the Gomerites [source], in fact, much of Josephus’ work, in this particular area, not only contradicts other historians, but also contradicts Bible scripture in many places. [J. Miller and J. Hayes, A History of Ancient Israel and Judah, Philadelphia, 1986, pp. 316, 334, 408, and 470]. Many of these mistakes were not found in an Arabic copy of the book. Possibly implying that the few original copies of the Greek version of this book, limited as they were, were doctored in some places by servants of Satan, who were helping to forge evidence that would later be used to help promulgate Satan’s End Times counterfeiting of the Gog and Magog war.
[Above paragraph based on information found in The Comets of God]

It seems that Scythians was a blanket term to describe a whole group of peoples.

Colonel J.C. Gawler’s book Our Scythian Ancestors supplies the answer: “Scythia proper, then, in the times of Herodotus (book iv. cap.101) is described as lying between the Danube and the Don. The Scythian nation was made up of various tribes having different names, though all are classed under one general name. Herodotus distinguishes, moreover, between tribes belonging to the Scythian nation, and tribes living among them having Scythian habits, but who were not Scythians by tradition or language. This distinction is not drawn by all writers.

“The ancient Greeks,” says Strabo, (book i. ii. 27) “classed all the northern nations with which they were familiar under the one name of Scythians, or according to Homer, Nomades.”

“Strabo (book vii. iii. 9) seems to account for this by again pointing out how diverse races inhabiting those parts were all classed by the Greek writers under the name of Scythians. ‘Ephorus, in the fourth book of his history, which is entitled ‘of Europe,’ concludes by saying that there is a great difference in the manner of life, both of the Sauromatae (a mixed race, Herod. iv. 110-117) and the other Scythians; for while some of them are exceedingly morose, and are indeed cannibals (see Herod. iv. 106) others abstain even from the flesh of animals. (See Strabo, xvi. ii. 37, regarding superstitious innovations-abstinence from meat, &c.,- among the followers of Moses.)” (p.3). One of the peoples of the mixed race who were Not Scythian, but were classified, or grouped together with the Scythians was Magog!

The Cold War is over

“Ezekiel tells us that God, [referring to Magog], the nation that will lead all of the other powers of darkness against Israel, will come out of the north. Biblical scholars have been saying for generations that Gog must be Russia. What other powerful nation is to the north of Israel? None. But it didn’t seem to make sense before the Russian revolution, when Russia was a Christian country. Now it does, now that Russia has become communistic and atheistic, now that Russia has set itself against God. Now it fits the description of Gog perfectly.” [Ronald Reagan, 1971]

Upon its release, Lindsay’s Late Great Planet Earth was a book which catapulted to the top of the seller list. This book attempted to describe the world situation since 14 May, 1948 when Israel became a nation. Because Israel is Mystery Babylon the Great, and the real regathering has not happened yet, we can already assume that this book was only released and promoted to such an extent because it was used to promulgate Satan’s great plan. Satan is ruler of this world, he would never let this book reach such a massive level of readership if it threatened his plan in any way. If this book really touched on some great truths it would have never sold 50,000,000 copies, it would have been criticized and Lindsay’s reputation and character would have been assassinated. Satan would not let Lindsay anywhere near talk radio shows such as Coast to Coast AM which is the second largest radio show in America.

“Following a dubious linguistic theory, the paperback writers of pop prophecy have almost universally claimed that Meschech and Tubal are Moscow and Tobolsk – again pointing the theological finger at the Soviet Union. When Late Great was released in 1970, the Cold War was raging and the identification seemed to be exceedingly probable – notwithstanding the fact that several dissident scholars such as Dr. Edwin Yamauchi of Miami University flatly stated the names could not refer to Russia, Moscow, and Tobolsk.

In the case of Late Great’s Hal Lindsey and his close associate writer Chuck Missler, the paperback rapture writer’s response was to plagiarize portions of Yamauchi’s scholarly work Foes From The Northern Frontier, and then twist the good Doctor’s research into the false conclusion that Gog and Magog is Russia. So they not only stole his work, but they then used the plagiarized material to reach a different conclusion!

Lindsey and Missler were caught by the LA Times, and pulled the stolen title (The Magog Factor) from the market, but the modern fiction of Russia as the great invader continues to be widely propagated through books, tapes, tracts, videos, and even popular songs – such as Maranatha’s pop anthem The Cossack Song – where the lyric laments “I wouldn’t want to be a Cossack…headed down Jerusalem way.” [James Lloyd, Gog and Magog Are Gathering Momentum, Christian Media Network]

With the Cold War long since having been ended, and with Russia back to being a Christian nation, unfortunately Russia’s popularity hasn’t improved much within most Christian circles. Lindsay started a tidal wave of groundless Russian xenophobia that has been further driven by most controlled preachers and televangelists. Perhaps this is an intentional part of Satan’s great plan of counterfeiting all of the major prophecies in Revelation and Ezekiel.

Will Satan counterfeit the Gog and Magog war?

Satan knows Bible prophecy like the back of his hand. How is Satan going to deceive scrupulous Bible savvy Christians who are watchful and weary of any moves towards a one world government? These Christians know that the Bible warns about a Satanic End Times kingdom and they would cause an uproar at the formation of such. Satan therefore must disarm these Christians. He must create a puppet Illuminati organization which presides over the creation of this supposed New World Order, he will create a counterfeit of all the major prophecies in Revelation, a counterfeit Antichrist, a counterfeit regathering of Israel [source], a counterfeit Mark of the Beast [source], a counterfeit New World Order, and a counterfeit Mystery Babylon the Great [source]. Then Satan, posing as Yeshua, with the rest of his demonic horde, will come to earth disguised as aliens [source], he will pretend to be the defeater of the New World Order. These Christians, believing that the prophecies have already been fulfilled, will look to Satan as their savior. He will then hand out the real Mark of the Beast, most Christians, believing that Satan was already defeated, will have no problem taking this mark, as they will believe it is Yeshua’s symbol. Satan’s great plan of deception is to make Revelation happen before it actually happens.

“And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts [of armour, even] a great company [with] bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:”(Ezekiel 38:3-5)

Judging by the situation of the world today, it certainly looks like Satan will counterfeit the Gog and Magog war as well. Russia’s relationship with Turkey has improved dramatically since the fall of the Soviet Union. With the recent conflicts between the leaders of Turkey and those of Israel it certainly seems like Turkey is being pushed further into Satan’s corner. With Medvedev in control of Russia, in 2010, relations reached an all time high.

President of Turkey slams Shimon Peres

Russia has been solidifying its ties with the Middle East for years now. Russia has very solid relations with Iran and Syria. Russia supplies both Iran and Syria with weapons and weapon defense systems. Russia has recently sold 72 P-800 cruise missiles to Syria [source].

Putin has recently spoken negatively about the U.N. Security Council resolution supporting military action in Libya. He has compared it to medieval calls for crusades [source]. Russian special forces (Spetsnaz) have been assisting the Libyans in their war against NATO troops [source].

The conflict between Russia and its allies and Israel and its allies is escalating at a frightening rate. Thinks look like they will blow up at any minute.

“The United States has decided to disengage itself from certain obligations on the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty (CFE). In particular, the USA will no longer inform Russia about the plans connected with the redeployment of its forces. Those restrictions are not touching upon any other country” [source].

“The Begin Sadat Center, a respected think tank based at Bar Ilan University, held a conference on November 23, 2011 on the subject of “Israeli Security in a New Regional Envornment”, which focused on the so-called “Arab Spring” and its implicatons. Its experts concluded that the Arab Spring is not going to result in democracy, despite original hopes in the West, and may make things even worse for Israel.

As steep as the price for hitting Iran may be, a military strike on Iran will be less painful than the cost of living with an Iranian nuclear weapons threat,” argues former Mossad head Maj. Gen. (res.) Danny Yatom. “The backlash from a strike on Iran’s nuclear sites will not be as bad for Israel as will an Iran armed with nuclear weapons,” he says. “I don’t think that those predicting apocalyptic repercussions of a strike on Tehran are correct, and even if they are, Israel can’t afford to wonder if Tehran will go crazy and bomb us” [Source].

Satan will most likely create his own counterfeit Gog and Magog war. He will make it happen before the real one actually happens.

What will really happen during the Gog and Magog war?

First we must cover a very important issue, the Israel in the Middle East is not the real regathering of all Israel spoken of in prophecy. The real regathering will not happen until during the tribulation after Mystery Babylon the Great is destroyed. The nation Israel is in fact a counterfeit, it is really Mystery Babylon the Great. The Israel that is spoken of in these prophecies is referring to the Lost Tribes of Israel.

With this deception cleared up we can shine new light on Ezekiel’s prophecies.

Upon first glance, the following passage of the Bible is very hard to interpret. Compared to other Bible’s, the King James Version does a poor job translating this particular passage. Perhaps the corrupt translators intentionally convoluted its meaning, like they did with the Mark of The Beast prophecy in Revelation 14. Lets use our Strong’s Concordance to get a better idea of what this passage originally meant in Hebrew.

“(Referring to Gog, Magog, Meschech and Tubal) After many days thou shalt be visited: (1) in the latter years thou shalt come into the land [that is] brought back (2) from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many people (3), against the mountains of Israel, which have been always (4) waste (5): but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely (6) all of them.”(Ezekiel 38:8 KJV, numbers added by me)

1) Strong’s H6485 common meanings: to attend to, muster, number, reckon, visit, punish, appoint, look after, care for, pay attention to, observe, needed

In this context it seems the best fit would be mustered. Which is how many other Bible’s similarly translate it.

2) Strong’s H7725 common meanings: to return, turn back

In this context it seems the best fit would be turned back from. Like above, many Bible’s translate it the same way.

3) Strong’s H5971 common meanings: people, nation

The best fit here would be nation.

4) Strong’s H8548 common meanings: continuity, perpetuity, to stretch, continually

This word is translated as continually 53 times and continual 26 times. The next closest is Daily at 7 times. Continually makes a far better fit.

5) Strong’s H2723 common meanings: a place laid waste, ruin, waste, desolation

The best fit here would be wasted, desolated or ruined.

6) Strong’s H983 common meanings: securely, safely, it is also translated as carelessly

All of these meanings are suitable. Carelessly makes more sense in my opinion.

Lets translate this passage with the more suitable words and see what we find.

(Referring to Gog, Magog, Meschech and Tubal) After many days thou shalt be mustered: (1) in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that has turned back (2) from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many nations (3), against the mountains (governments, kingdoms) of Israel, which have been continually (4) brought to ruin (5): but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell carelessly (6) all of them. (Ezekiel 38:8 KJV interpreted by me)

Mountain is symbolic of a government or kingdom (Daniel 7:34-35) + (Psalm 30:7; Isaiah 2:2-3; Dan. 2:35, 45; Jer. 51:5).

The above passage seems to be stating that God will muster these Turkish nations against the nations of Israel, meaning the European nations. This passage is alluding to the fact that the Israelites will be under a false sense of security, being careless when Gog attacks.

Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know [it]? (Ezekiel 38:14)

Once again the Bible states clearly that in the end of days Israel will be believing themselves to be safe. As of right now, with all of the escalations with its neighbors, the inhabitants of the nation Israel in the Middle East know they are not safe. A further clue that this is talking about Europe rather than the counterfeit Israel in the Middle East.

And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel: (Ezekiel 39:2)

The north parts here is referring to the north parts during the time of Ezekiel. This is referring to Asia Minor. The mountains of Israel obviously cannot be taken literally. Mountains here is referring to governments and kingdoms of Israel. Similarly how it is used in other prophetic works like Daniel Chapter 7.

And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the [noses] of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call [it] The valley of Hamongog. (Ezekiel 39:11)

valley of hamongog, gog, magog, battle, east of the sea

Here is another passage that should not be taken literally but should be interpreted symbolically like other works of prophecy. Sea is used to represent the Israelite nations and peoples link. This valley of Hamongog will be a graveyard along the eastern parts of the Israelite (European) nations.

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18 Responses to Russia Is Not Rosh Gog Magog Meschech Or Tubal

  1. Research Gog and Magog defenders of London. There are statues all over London depicted Gog and Magog as defenders of London. Every year they have a parade in London for the mayor, in the parade they have floats of Gog and Magog. It is said Gog and Magog were 2 Nephilim Giants that the Israelite’s encountered when they settled the land of Britain. They also have Magog Hills in Britain…I have many pictures in my photo album on FB of Gog and Magog in London.

  2. Lone says:

    ..first half is very interesting.. and i agree.. also because ‘Gök’ (turk) etymology should derive from ‘gog’. The mongol tribes attacked Western christianity thrice: when the Goths christianized; then the Tartar invasion, and again to try overrun the Reformation (1500’s) by the Huns

    however
    though i absolutely agree that its an invention ( with an agenda) like ‘gog is russia’,
    gog means ‘rooftop’ , where magog is ‘land of rooftops’. The rooftop is the connection between heaven and earth; and can be translated as ‘dark world ‘, in the sense like when the children of Adam were living on the mountain still, and the perverse humanity was living ‘in the valley nearby ‘ ( Henoch) , the ‘darkened world’.
    It is gog (sata*) and the darkened deluded world, who will (try) attack in a madness the Lord when He will come back to claim what is His ‘. Try to stop the implementation of the 1000 y Kingdom. It is very sad, that at the moment, most believers are, on purpose, misled by edom, when everywhere he spreads his false, fleshy doctrines

    bless

  3. mattt says:

    its already happening… eyes will stray during the olympics… mattrix7E

  4. keeperjoey says:

    Israel is not Babylon, the US is.

    • The US is a counterfeit Mystery Babylon the Great. I will write an article about it shortly. For now please read the article titled “Israel is Mystery Babylon”

      God bless

      • Anonymous says:

        “Come out of her my people” must surely be referring to the scattered tribes, who else would be His people? His people surely do NOT reside in the counterfeit nation of Israel.
        They reside in TRUE Israel, which is Great Britain [Ephraim] and America [Manasseh] just as Gen. tells us. “A nation [USA] and a multitude of nations [BCN]”.
        Ezekiel tells us that HIS PEOPLE [USA, BCN] will be attacked at the same time as the land of Israel is attacked. This clearly tells you that His People are NOT currently in His LAND.

        Ezekiel
        38:15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts [RUSSIA, NO DOUBT as no other nation is capable of destroying GB and USA], thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:
        38:16 And thou shalt come up against My people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against My land, that the heathen may know Me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
        38:17 Thus saith the Lord “I AM”; [Art] thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by My servants the Prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days [many] years that I would bring thee against them?
        38:18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord “I AM”, [that] My fury shall come up in My face.
        38:19 For in My jealousy [and] in the fire of My wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

        You somethings correct in your blog that I have read, but you are very much incorrect here.

  5. keeperjoey says:

    Sorry but when some of your writings do not follow scripture it goes from sound doctrine to a doctrine of man, and we are warned about that. Many of your stories are full of biblical inaccuracies that negate most of what you say.

  6. Daniel b says:

    John, you must see the descriptions of the lost tribes as the European Christian cultures in chapter 9 and 10 of http://www.christianidentityrevealed2012.com dan b

  7. Turkey is the seat of the King of the North who will end up being possessed by the prince of Grecia becoming the eighth who was also #5 (the prince of Grecia possessed Alexander the Great) of the seven, making the prince of Grecia the ‘one that was, and is not now, yet will be again’. The king of the North will rule over the 10 Crown Kingdom which will include Syria, Iran, Iraq and seven others, three of which will be uprooted by force. Right now the 3 likely to be uprooted are Syria, Iran, Iraq The 10 Crown Kingdom is poised to form and will be the seventh.
    The prophecy of the total destruction of Damascus leads me to believe Syria may be used as the staging ground for a surprise attack against Israel (but still researching that).

  8. Zadok says:

    I agree Russia is NOT Magog/Gog as Russia is not made of isles. “Satan” will counterfeit Revelation?-You are a liar because Jesus Christ alone is worthy to look on and opens the seals as no one else can. See Revelation 5:1-5. “And on of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.” So Satan is NOT permitted to actually conterfeit certain aspects recorded in Revelation. Speaking of seals-the fish dying/and rivers and oceans turning blood red. *This is NOT counterfeit because Only Jesus Christ looses the seals permitting fulfillment on earth.

    • Frank A. Fontana DC says:

      WELL I AM SORRY THE LAND OF MAGOG IS BELARUS AND SOME OF THE LAND OF THE BALTICS THE VOLHYNIANS ESPECIALLY ALSO SOME OF THE TRIBES IN SWEDEN. AND ALL THE TRIBES CALLED THE WALHAZ. THIS INCLUDES THE WALLACHIANS, THE WELCH, GALLICIANS AND GAELS ETC.

      THE ROSH ARE THE TIRAS TRIBES FROM RASHU OR RESHU WHICH MEANS BLONDS WHICH ALSO REFERS TO TUBAL WHO ARE ONE OF THE MOST BLOND NATIONS ALSO MOSTLY IN THE BALTICS!

      TUBAL ALSO CONSIDERED TO BE A BLOND NATION IS ALSO IN THE BALTICS. THE NAGOG TRIBES IN ISLE ARE IN IRELAND AND SCANDINAVIA TOO.

      FOLLOW THE Y MALE R & Q MALE GNE AND SEE WHERE THEY ARE?

      FRANK

      On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:20 AM, I AM NOT REALLY JOHN THE BAPTIST – WAS

      • Judah says:

        I just have to say its completely ludacris to say that whites are shemites when Noah was a black man. Yes ham is black but Shem is also black. Scriptures says the israelites and hamites could not be told a part. Among other scriptures and archaeological evidence that they try to always hide show that Shem was black. Yes Satan is a deceiver. How can caucasoid be shem? They have not suffered under any of the curses that The Most High has put upon us for our fore fathers being disobedient. Deut. 28:64 they’ll be taken by ships, sold, not freed their children’s children will be under these curses for 400 years.

        There is no other people that have fallen under these curses than the so called African american. I can agree with a lot that you say, but I cannot agree that Shem is Caucasoid Bcus from my studies that’s actually Japheth.

        • Frank A. Fontana DC says:

          I THINK IF YOU READ ALL THE ANCIENT DESCRIPTIONS YOU WILL FINE THAT ALL THE SONS OF NOAH WERE FAIR EVEN THE HAMITICS NEGROID FOLKS COME FROM A PREVIOUS GENETIC SURVIVAL THE Y-DNA SEEMS TO ONLY SUPPORT A MORE LOCAL FLOOD JUST ENOUGH TO DESTROY THE EVIL MEN.

          On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 6:02 PM, I AM NOT REALLY JOHN THE BAPTIST – WAS

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  11. vlad says:

    Semites (hebrews) are afro-asiatic, dark skinned, dark eyed and swarthy also (not caucasoid) they are not related with indo-europeans (which just a language theory)

    • Frank A. Fontana DC says:

      I DISAGREE THE HISTORICAL RUS DUE COME OUT OF THE LAND OF MAGOG WHICH IS THE UTMOST PARTS OF THE NORTH OF ISRAEL: HOWEVER, THE RUS ARE THE RUSHAH TRIBE FROM THE DESCENDANTS OF TIRAS: THE WORD RUSHAHS IS A WORD DERIVATIVE THAT MEANS BLONDS AND THIS IS THE TRIBE THAT RULES IN MESHECH AND TUBAL ALSO IN THE TERRITORIES OF RUSSIA AND THE BALTIC AND THIS INCLUDES SWEDEN TOO! THEY ARE THE SVEAR THAT IS WHY THERE GOD IS SVAROG IN NOVGOROD!

      AND YES THE SEMITICS ARE CANAANITE IN ORIGIN AND HAVE THE “J” Y MALE GENE AND ARE MIXED WITH NEGROID TYPE HUMANS: HOWEVER; THE ORIGINAL ABRAHAMIC DESCEND ARE THE “I” Y MALE GENE WHICH DOES NOT SURVIVE IN ISRAEL OR IN THE SEMITIC OF TODAY!

      THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF BETWEEN SHEMITIC AND SEMITIC I DO DEEM!

      GOG HOWEVER IS BOTH THEIR COMING CHIEF PRINCE AND SATAN!

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