Jesus With UFOs Depicted In Old Artwork

Jesus crucifixion UFO

Many very old pieces of Christian artwork feature UFOs. Considering the fact that Satan is ruler of this world, it is highly likely that these pictures were painted by Satanists. This Christian UFO artwork, especially when it directly relates to Jesus, must benefit Satan in some way.

The gurus of the 2012 movement, a movement which states that our alien creators will come back to earth corresponding to December 21, 2012, mention Jesus returning at this time as well.

David Wilcock – “2012 is the year that whatever the second coming of Christ is supposed to be will happen”
2012 – Event Horizon. Dir. David Wilcock. 2010. Web. 17 Jan. 2012.

David Wilcock – “the great pyramid speaks of Jesus coming in and speaks of him in very positive terms…but it also says this is a universal event… its not just about one religion its about something that benefits everyone… this time were in is a time of change, its a time we all experience change together… we’re all in this together, and each one of you are one of those liberators, you are one of those people, you are one of those people who have been charged to share what you with the people, and yes. just as had happened with me someone will call you the antichrist…”
2012 – Event Horizon. Dir. David Wilcock. 2010. Web. 17 Jan. 2012.

The New Age movement is Satanic. All of the information released by the New Age movement should be seen as propaganda originating from Satan himself. One could look at New Age prophecy and propaganda to gain insight into Satan’s End Times plan. Since the New Age movement speaks of Jesus returning at the same time that aliens make their presence known, we know that Satan’s End Times deceptions will involve Jesus and UFOs / aliens in some way.

In an earlier article, we discovered that Leonardo da Vinci artwork promoted dangerous deceptions. We found that Leonardo da Vinci was Jewish, we then speculated that he was a member of the Synagogue of Satan, which is a Satanic group of Jews who are also charged with causing most of the evil on earth. This group of Satanic Jews is also referred to as Mystery Babylon the Great.

A Leonardo da Vinci painting was recently found which depicts Mary Magdalene with a child.

Leonardo Da Vinci Mary Magdalene With Child

The timing of this is very suspicious, considering we are in the 7 year End times window, which started in July of 2011 and will end in 2018. This painting, by Leonardo da Vinci, promotes the End Times deception that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married and had children. This is also the theory put forward by the popular writer Dan Brown, author of  “The Da Vinci Code.” Satan is ruler of this world (John 16:11), it is no accident that these books have become popular now, just prior to emergence of Maitreya, the little horn of Christian prophecy.

Leonardo Da Vinci’s painting “The Last Supper” also alludes to the Mary Magdalene deception. Supposedly, the person sitting to Jesus’ right is Mary Magdalene, not the apostle John. Leonardo da Vinci painted this on command of Satan, knowing it would be used to promote Satan’s End Times deceptions.

Why is Leonardo da Vinci promoting the lie that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and had children? As was shown in our article titled “Mary Magdalene And The Merovingian Conspiracy,” the little horn will claim to be a descendent of Jesus (the little horn will really be a fallen angel posing as a human). Therefore, since we know the Maitreya / Mahdi is the little horn, we know that the Maitreya / Mahdi will claim to be a descendent of Jesus. Leonardo Da Vinci was used by Satan to give credence to the lie that Jesus had children with Mary Magdalene. This, in turn, will be used to give credence to Maitreya’s claim of being the Messiah since Islamic and Christian prophecy demands that the Messiah meet certain ancestral qualifications. For example, to deceive Jews, the Maitreya / Mahdi will claim to be a descendent of David, since that is a necessary qualification (This is also why the lie that the antichrist will be Jewish is promoted). There are also numerous Islamic lineage requirements that he will need to fulfill to convince the world that he is Mahdi. To accommodate all of these prophetic lineage requirements of the earth’s various religions, the antichrist will have to claim  to fulfill all of them. This is why the human antichrist deception is promoted.

Now that we have proven that Satan’s conspiracy is ancient, and that he used famous, popular artists to promote his deceptions. What should we make of the artwork which depicts UFOs at the scene of Jesus’ crucifixion?

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These pieces of art promote some very sinister agendas. Satan wants to convince the world that aliens created humans, rather than the Biblical God. Perhaps when the counterfeit Christ emerges, corresponding to December 21, 2012, this false Jesus will cite these works of art as evidence that that aliens, indeed, did create humans. In a similar way, he will cite Leonardo da Vinci’s paintings as evidence that the Mary Magdalene conspiracy was true after all. That Mary Magdalene gave birth to Jesus’ offspring. These royal line of descendents were the Merovingian kings. It will be this divine line that Maitreya will claim to be a descendent of.

Christian art UFOs

The depictions of Jesus near UFOs also may allude to a deception promoted by Islam, which is a religion started by Satan. The Islamic Jesus is the counterfeit Jesus of Christian prophecy. The Islamic Mahdi is the “little horn” of Christian prophecy. The Islamic Jesus differs considerably from the Christian one. The Islamic Jesus was said to have survived the crucifixion. How will Satan claim that he survived the crucifixion? Perhaps he will say that he was taken by UFOs. Islamic prophetic writings imply that this may be true.

“They did not kill him and nor did they crucify him but the resemblance of him (Jesus) was put over another man and those who differ there in, are in doubt. They have no certain knowledge. They are following nothing but conjecture for surely they did not kill him but Allah raised him up to him.” (Surah Nisa)

How did Allah raise Islamic Jesus up?

Both Islam and the New Age movement will both be deceived into worshiping the false Messiah. Since we know that the Islamic Mahdi is the New Age Maitreya, we know that New Age propaganda and prophecy is complimentary to Islamic. Since the New Age movement says that aliens are our creators, the Islamic God Allah will eventually be shown to be an extraterrestrial God. Also, since the New Age movement connects Jesus with UFOs, we know that Satan will have to sell the UFO agenda to the Muslims as well. Therefore, since the New Age movement claims that aliens will arrive on December 21, 2012, and Jesus will be with these aliens, we can then assume that the New Age / Islamic Jesus will claim to have been taken to the heavens on a UFO, having escaped the crucifixion.

And because of their saying (in boast), “We killed Messiah ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of God,” — but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of ‘Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)]: But God raised him ['Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And God is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise. And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), but must believe in him ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), as only a Messenger of God and a human being], before his ['Iesa (Jesus) or a Jew's or a Christian's] death (at the time of the appearance of the angel of death). And on the Day of Resurrection, he ['Iesa (Jesus)] will be a witness against them. S. 4:157-159 Hilali-Khan

Muslims think that Jesus survived the crucifixion and was taken up to heaven. They say he will “descend” in the Last Days. What will he descend from?

“By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 34, Number 425)

Jabir b. ‘Abdullah reported: I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: A section of my people will not cease fighting for the Truth and will prevail till the Day of Resurrection. He said: Jesus son of Mary would then descend and their (Muslims’) commander would invite him to come and lead them in prayer, but he would say: No, some amongst you are commanders over some (amongst you). This is the honour from Allah for this Ummah. (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0293)

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night…Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. (Revelation 12:7-12)

Satan’s arrival (counterfeit Jesus) is compared to lightning falling from heaven.

And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. (Luke 10:18)

This is a direct counterfeit of Jesus’ second coming.

For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. (Matthew 24:27-28)

The implication here is that it will not be possible to miss Jesus’ second coming. Everyone will see it. Satan will counterfeit this. Demon’s are shapeshifters. His demonic horde will likely change shape into massive UFOs. These demonic UFOs could be flown above every major city as a direct counterfeit of Jesus’ second coming. Him descending from a spaceship or with spaceships would correlate to the UFO and alien deception. According to Islamic prophecy, he will descent to the white minaret in the east of Damascus with his hands placed on the wings of two angels (UFO’s or aliens of some sort?). Obviously the aliens would have had to do something about his body to keep it preserved for so long. The Islamic Jesus will apparently have what appears to be shiny pearls in his hair (Nawwas-b-Samaan/Muslim). Is this alluding to his ascended spirit body?

David Wilcock – “…there are many illustrations of Jesus, after his ascension, also showing him sitting on a rainbow indicating he’s now in an ascended state, and if you go over into the Tibetan traditions there are many many illustrations of the rainbow body, which literally means that as you ascend and your body starts to dematerialize you start to get all of these wonderful rainbow colors that are visible around you…”
2012 – Source Field Investigations. Dir. David Wilcock. 2010. Web. 1 Feb. 2012.

This is also what will apparently happen to humanity.

David Wilcock – “2012 is an energetic transformation, its a transformation that effects everyone on earth, it’s a transformation that effectively changes us into light beings…”
2012 – Event Horizon
. Dir. David Wilcock. 2010. Web. 17 Jan. 2012.

The counterfeit Jesus will be here to help humanity through its ascension into Godhood. This is how Satan tempted humanity in Eden: “ye shall be like God” (Genesis 3:5).

David Wilcock – “We come into contact with a body of information, that has been kept secret for thousands and thousands of years, and the reason why, is that with this information comes the potential for what is called apotheosis. Apotheosis means human becomes god.” [20]
2012 – Event Horizon
. Dir. David Wilcock. 2010. Web. 17 Jan. 2012.

“…you are living in a most important time when energy is coming alive, the Gods are here, you are these Gods.
Marciniak, Barbara. Bringers of the Dawn: Teachings from the Pleiadians. Audio.

David Wilcock – “You have the physical rebirth for semi-enlightened people, the karmic evolution towards spiritual initiation… the path of ascension, the path of the messianic initiative in which you become the fulfillment of the Christ promise and you achieve spiritual escape from materiality from being human and physical”
2012 – Event Horizon
. Dir. David Wilcock. 2010. Web. 17 Jan. 2012.

It seems like he will claim to have transcended his body and is now a light-being. Perhaps he will claim that the resurrection was a spiritual resurrection. He will then proceed to instruct humanity and help them through ascension. Some New Agers believe the “rapture” will be the spiritual transcendence.

Other artwork which depicts UFOs in connection with Christianity.

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christian ufos artwork

christian ufos artwork

As mentioned before, Satan’s conspiracy is ancient. He has left contrived evidence throughout the various cultures of the world which implies that aliens, indeed, are our creators. Notice the following Egyptian hieroglyph. There appears to be a helicopter, some sort of a space ship and a submarine.

Egyptian art UFOs

Wall paintings from elsewhere in the world depict what appears to be the “Grey” species of aliens.

Grey Aliens Ancient Artufos artwork

Demons are shape shifters, they can take any form that they wish. Why then do they take such a creepy and ugly form? Wouldn’t it make more strategic sense to assume a non-threatening, less evil looking form? Satan knows that by presenting the Greys as looking creepy and evil, people will subconsciously associate them with demons. Does Satan want us to know that these aliens are demons? If so, why?  Doesn’t Satan want to convince the world that these aliens are our creators? Satan wants for the vast majority of the world to accept the belief that aliens are our creators, this in turn will lead to them accepting the counterfeit Christ. The various religions of the world, which he started, as well as the New Age movement and liberal Christianity will be deceived into worshiping the false Messiah.  However, for those Christians who are able to correctly identify the false Messiah, he wants to brainwash these Christians into accepting other dangerous deceptions. In this way he controls both sides, and ensures that neither makes it into heaven. Satan will provide the necessary evidence to help these Christians realize that Greys are, indeed, demons.

Lenin – The best way to control the opposition is to lead it

Satan wants to break humanity into two main controlled groups in the Last Days. These groups will be separated by their stance on Israel, which is Mystery Babylon the Great. Neither of these groups will make it into heaven.

Zionist (right-wing Christians and Zionist Jews)

  • These will be able to correctly identify the counterfeit Jesus
  • These will be able to correctly identify the “aliens” as really being demons
  • These will not be able to correctly identify Israel as an evil nation
  • These will be pro-Zionist
  • Because of their Zionist beliefs, they will be unsuccessful in navigating their way through Satan’s End Times deceptions
  • They will embrace dispensationalism
  • Satan will use his corrupt preachers to promote all sorts of lies such as the microchip being the mark of the beast, the Vatican being Mystery Babylon the Great, the abomination of desolation will happen in a rebuilt physical temple, rather than a figurative temple

The Zionist group, which incorrectly believes that the gathering of 1948 was a divine act of God, will correctly identify the that the counterfeit Christ is the “antichrist”. However they will be deceived about other things that are necessary and vital towards their salvation. He wants the Zionist group to embrace dispensationalism, a Zionist ideology that promotes deceptions relating to the abomination of desolation, mark of the beast and Mystery Babylon the Great. To successfully navigate through Satan’s End Times deceptions one must be able to identify the fact that Israel is an evil nation.

“Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:” (Matthew 7:13).

Satan wants to control the rest of humanity as well.

Anti-Zionists (liberal Christians, New Age, Islam, all other religions)

  • These will fall for the counterfeit Jesus and will be deceived into worshiping him.
  • These will think that the “aliens” are in fact aliens, rather than demons.
  • These will be able to correctly identify that Israel is an evil nation
  • These will be anti-Zionist
  • Because of their liberal, Islamic and New Age beliefs, they will incorrectly be deceived into worshiping the wrong Jesus
  • These will be led to believe that the Jesus of Christianity and Islam are the same

Satan plans on herding all those who correctly identify Israel as an evil nation to embrace the counterfeit Christ. He will pose as savior of the earth from the Zionist Illuminati. This group will also fail in finding their way into heaven.

Since Satan essentially has both sides covered, he will purposely leave enough evidence for the Zionist Christians to correctly identify that the Grey aliens are demons. Satan’s strategy is to have his puppets, like popular dispensationalist Hal Lindsay, tell the truth about the fact that demons will pose as aliens. Satan wants Christians to think, “Hal Lindsay was right. Satan’s great plan is trying to convince the world that aliens are our creators; these aliens are just demons posing as aliens. Since Hal Lindsay was right about the alien agenda, he must be right about everything else as well.” In this way Satan will shepherd the vast majority of Christians to embrace dispensationalism as the truth. Since, dispensationalists lie about almost everything else, these Christians will unfortunately be lost.

Here’s some examples that provide evidence that Satan is purposely providing clues that these Grey aliens are in fact demons.

In our article about the Merovingian deception, we came to the conclusion that trying to use occult sources to gain insight into Satan’s plan is pointless. Satan knows that Christians will look to Satanic and occult sources to try to gain insight into his great plan. Therefore, Satan is not going to let anything slip that would help Christians navigate their way through Satan’s End Times deceptions. Satan, instead, plants false information intentionally to give credence to his counterfeits. For example, Aleister Crowley and the OTO organization promote deceptions regarding the antichrist. He cleverly promotes information that would make one thing that the antichrist will really be a Merovingian, which supposedly are descendents of Jesus (and therefore fulfilling the erroneous Zionist Christian belief that the antichrist will be Jewish, and also fulfilling the Jewish and liberal Christian belief that Messiah will be related to David).

The head of the Ordo Temple Orientis (which is a black magick organization once headed by Aleister Crowley) claimed the Merovingians were descendents of the Nephilim.

“Set was the “black god”. He was known as “he who is below.” He was banished to the underworld by his “twin” Horus for killing Osiris. The Nephilim were banished to the center of the earth for disobeying God by mating with the daughters of men and teaching them the “forbidden” arts. In this publication the Nephilim have been identified as the Fathers of the Merovingians. Set was generally considered to be a vile, vicious god baneful to men. But there are enough aspects of this god that link him to the ancient Sumerian myths, the basis of the Merovingian mythos published in this magazine, to show that Set is to be identified with the same gods and characters that make up these Mythos. He may have been considered baneful towards some races, but not the race of the Grail.”
Kenneth Grant and the Merovingian Mythos

Nephilim have been identified as the Fathers of the Merovingians.” Would Satan ever allow this Satanic organization to release information that would be so devastating to his plan?

Aleister Crowley, the famous Satanist’s, seal was a sea bull.

“…the Merovingian race was sired by a water beast known as the Quinotaur. This Quinotaur took the form of a sea-bull. Crowley’s personal seal was of a sea goat. Grant, writing of Crowley’s Seal of the Beast, says: ‘The beast is the sea-goat or amphibious monster identical with Cthulhu, the Quinotaure or Bull of the Deep.’ Grant writes as a footnote; ‘The waters under the earth; home of the ‘ancestors’ or subconscious atavisms of the race.’ Is this a reference to the race of the Grail?”
Kenneth Grant and the Merovingian Mythos

The antichrist will really be a fallen angel posing as a dark skinned Merovingian Jew, not a real descendent of the Merovingians. He will pose as dark skinned to promote deceptions regarding the Lost Tribes of Israel. We suspect that he will try to present black people as the Lost Tribes of Israel. Hopefully our black friends who read this blog will not be deceived by it. Please read the article titled “Mary Magdalene And The Merovingian Conspiracy” for more information. As you can see, Satan uses Satanic and occult sources to give credence to his deceptions. Satan has done something similar using Aleister Crowley, a man who called himself “The Beast 666,” to give clues to the truth that Grey aliens are really demons.

Aleister Crowley drew a picture of an entity named Aiwass, which he claimed was his spirit guide. This entity dictated to him his famous esoteric work “The Book of the Law.” This entity looks very much like a Grey alien.

aleister crowley lam grey aliensSince Aleister Crowley was very open about his Satanism, we can assume that Satan uses him to intentionally associate certain things as being evil. This is why the Hexagram symbol is quite common in Aleister Crowley’s work. In this way Satan hopes to deceive Christians into believing that the Hexagram is the mark of the beast. The real mark is a spiritual mark.

Satan knows that Christians will associate the odd creature that Aleister Crowley sketched with demons, since this odd Grey creature appeared to the Satanist Aleister Crowley. Since the creature looks similar to a Grey aliens, Satan knows that Christians will associate Grey aliens with demons. In this way, Satan gives clues to help dispensationalist Christians come to the realization that these Grey aliens are really demons in disguise.

The ancient Book of Enoch, a book which I suspect was authored by Satan to promote various deceptions, gives further evidence. The Book of Enoch seems to depict the fallen angels, called the “watchers”, as being “grey” in appearance.

Enoch 3
(2) And he said to me : The spirits of the wicked go down to She’ol
by the hands of two angels of destruction: ZA’APHIEL and SIMKIEL
are their names. (3) SIMKIEL is appointed over the intermediate to
support them and purify them because of the great mercy of the
Prince of the Place (Maqom). ZA’APHIEL is appointed over the spirits
of the wicked4 in order to cast them down from the presence of the
Holy One, blessed be He, and from the splendour of the Shekina
5 to She’ol, to be punished in the fire of Gehenna5 with staves of
burning coal.
(4) And I went by his side, and he took me by his hand and showed
me all of them with his fingers.
(5) And I beheld the appearance of their faces (and, lo, it was)
as the appearance of children of men, and their bodies like eagles.
And not only that but (furthermore) the colour of the countenance
of the intermediate was like pale grey on account of their deeds
, for

there are stains upon them until they have become cleaned from their
iniquity in the fire.

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Watchers, Raymond Fowler

More evidence is provided by looking into the famous Betty Andreasson abduction case, which I covered extensively in the article titled “Demons Will Pose As Aliens.” Betty’s story is one of the more famous abduction cases. Her story was told in the book “Watchers” by Raymond Fowler. Betty Andreasson encountered the Grey aliens. What’s interesting is that these Grey aliens called themselves “the watchers.” This is the same exact term used in the Book of Enoch to describe the fallen angels.

Lets see if this story really adds up. Demons are not stupid. They have undoubtedly heard of the Book of Enoch. If you were a demon trying to deceive humans into believing that you were an alien, would you refer to yourself with terminology that is known to be associated with fallen angels? Obviously, you would want to keep your identity a secret. You would not state that you were “watchers” since you would know that Christians are very aware of the Book of Enoch, and they know that this book refers to the fallen angels as “watchers”.

Whythen did these demons posing as aliens refer to themselves as “watchers”? Satan told his demons to refer to themselves as watchers since he knew that Christians would associate the Grey aliens with the watcher fallen angels of the Book of Enoch. In this way, Satan plants evidence that he knows will help Christians arrive at the correct conclusion that aliens are fallen angels in disguise. He has nothing to worry about because he knows that the most popular promoters of this theory are all his dispensationalist puppets. These Satanic puppets will deceive these Christians who figure out that aliens are in fact demons about other necessary pieces of information that Christians will need to know to get into heaven.

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11 Responses to Jesus With UFOs Depicted In Old Artwork

  1. David says:

    John, I know you mean well, but you are confused. Or perhaps a better word would be deceived. First of all, TRUE Christ followers are not trying to “get into heaven”, at least not in the sense as you understand it. Also, the elect will be “God”, just as suredly as the Son is, for they will be as He is. They will be as He is, because they will reign on this earth with Him for 1,000 years as “kings and priests” to God Most High……..the Father, in the soon coming “kingdom (GOVERNMENT) of God “……ON THIS EARTH……LITERALLY. This is what Satan has been conspiring with the world for ages to conterfeit. Satan (the Adversary), is not God’s enemy. He was created for the very purpose for which he exist and for which he is. Satan is man’s enemy (death). The Father created all that exist ( good AND evil ), for a reason and a purpose. He alone is SOVEREIGN over all. All that will transpire in the last days is the Father’s will for mankind. He wills it, He causes it, He controls it all. And that for His Honor and His Glory. |
    You do touch on a very good scenerio of events, even ascertaining to some truths that are totally unknown by the so called “christians”. For example, the “whore” in Revelation is “Israel”, but includes far more than that little state (Judah) in the middle east today. She is just the “mother of harlots”. Her “fornication” is obvious by the flag she bears over her name. The symbol ( not the star of David ) itself is as old as the serpent himself. It symbolizes the union of heaven and earth, the union of the physical and the spiritual, the union of realms ( realities ). As with the “two pillars” of Solomans temple (masonry). At the union of the two pillars is where “conception” occurs. Look at any man, or woman. Do you see the two pillars (legs) ? There is indeed a “birth” of a “new age” coming soon. And Satan’s job is to bring it into reality. It is only the deceived hearts (minds/wills) of disobedient mankind that are working to further this endeavor. And ALL of this, by THE WILL OF GOD MOST HIGH.

  2. David says:

    John, one more thing you should know. When God sends the “strong delusion”, that you speak of here, all mankind will see what they want to see, they will believe what they want to believe. This is what “delusion” is. It is a pathological illness, a mental illness…..in essence……”possesion”. And this “possession” is by evil spirits (demons). However they “appear” at first, will not be what they represent, you are correct in this evaluation. But know this, the reason that God will give mankind what he (man) wants, is because this is what mankind thinks he has (will). To believe that you have “free will” is to believe that God is NOT Sovereign over His creation (creature). Mankind has a GREAT LESSON to learn. And a loving, LIVING God will teach His children what is best for him (man)……….even against his “free will” ( that man does not have ). I will leave you with this to ponder.

    • I remember reading an article called “Mystery of God, Freewill or Predestination”

      http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Mystery

      After this I was fairly convinced that predestination was true. Though I couldn’t wrap my head around several concepts. I asked God which one was true. When I woke up, I was in that sort of semi-dreamlike state (same state I get demonic attacks / sleep paralysis) when I was informed that both are true. Somehow predestination and freewill are both true at the same time. Though I do not understand how and haven’t bothered trying to figure out how.

      Regardless, your input is always kind of interesting. God bless.

  3. David says:

    John, while it is true that man can will to do, man cannot will to will. In other words, we do not cause our own will. This is not only Scriptural ( God’s Word ), it is as simple as the fact that we do not have any say about our circumstances in this physical existance that is our life. We dont choose to be born, our gender, race, time in history, etc, or any other circumstance we find ourselves in. We dont cause our heart to beat, our breath, etc, or any other physical sense we may have. I know it “appears” that we do, but in reality and in truth, we are helpless when it comes to our lives that God has given to us, that belongs to Him , and He alone is Sovereign over. This belief that man has, that he has freedom of will, is what God calls “sin”. Of course this is manifested in many ways in our lives, and primarily in the form of “lust”, which is inordinate desire (will). This is what Adam (Eve) did to start the process. Humanity wants what it does not need, and needs what it does not want. God even created a special being (Lucifer) to ensure that man would follow through on this course. Remember what he says in his heart ? ” I will….. I will….. I will……I will…….I will……” . Through this process (sin), that God imprisoned mankind in ( I can provide Scripture if you like ), our Father is teaching us something that we cannot learn any other way. Creation, which is of God, the Creator, commands by necessity that it be dual in existance. Light, dark……large, small……high, low……etc; and on and on. Good and evil is no exception. One does not exist without the other. We cannot know one without the other. This is what existance (creation) is. But the Creator is not a part of His creation. He exist apart from it, invisible, no man has ever seen Him, and no man, or any other created being ever will. This is WHY we have the Son ( Christ ). He alone has come from the Father. This is WHY He (Christ) is “God” to us (creation). So, John, try to keep in mind, as I said before, that however the events of the last days of this present evil age come about, everything will happen exactly as the Father has already willed that it will happen. You are not wrong in wanting to understand, but ” be careful how you hear (understand). For whoever has (understanding), more will be given to him. But whoever has not (understanding), even what he thinks he has, will be taken from him “. There is nothing hidden that will not be brought to light, in due time.

  4. David says:

    John, also you commented on the other witness to come, as being “black”. This is because the two witnesses will be “dressed in sackcloth”. This is to be interpreted as that they will be HUMBLE, sackcloth being a sign and symbol of humility. And this not the false kind that is in the world, but of God. In relationship to God, as seen in the eyes of God. True humility starts with the understanding of the Sovereignty of God over His creation ( creature ). And coming to a knowledge of the truth, that a man does not have “free will” is the beginning of such humility that pleases God.

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  6. But what if this was completely backwards,and we are judging Gods works?
    The ufo’s may just be some of God’s work that we do not understand.
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  7. Just wondering,and trying to stay open minded.

    • But wonder why just because something is different that it is evil.
      Sort of close minded for a student that knows that our entire knowledge of the huge universe is small,and our entire meaning of the whole universe,and our understanding of things is just so limited.

  8. Anonymous says:

    You’re nuts. There is no such thing as Satan. If you read the history of where the word came from you will find that it is pronounced like the word baton and means adversary. It was invented by the church to keep people in line. People also could not understand how a God who is supposed to be so wonderful could possibly allow bad things to happen to people so the people invented the concept that God had to have an adversary. This is not true. All of these experiences are lessons. You have been blinded to what you call Satan if you believe your own crap.

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